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Toni Reece: Thank you so much, Jessica, for being part of the Project today, and before we begin, can you please introduce yourself?

Jessica Town-Gunderson: Yes, my name is Jessica Town-Gunderson, and like many women, I am a multitasker, so I am a mother of three and a wife, and I am a full-time marketing instructor at the local technical college.  I am also a graduate student in mass communications.  I run a spiritual retreat center, and I dabble in historic home renovation, but probably the most pertinent thing that I do according to this interview is a pet project that I started with my friend Jeannette Grace which is called ShiFT the World.

Toni: My goodness there’s a lot going on in that introduction.

Jessica: There is.

Toni: Well Jessica, tell us a little bit about ShiFT the World.

Jessica: Okay.  ShiFT the World is an online happiness movement that Jeannette and I have started.  We purposefully daily do some random act of kindness, and it can be for our family, and it can be for friends, it can be for perfect strangers, but what we’re doing is trying to enlighten ourselves and hopefully inspire others to really seek out opportunities to make a difference.

Toni: Fantastic, and that’s beautiful into the very first question, which is, who do you inspire, and how does that happen?

Jessica: Okay, well, I like to think that I inspire my own children, which I think is most important.  As a teacher, I hope that I inspire students as well.  And really the ShiFT the World thing is an attempt to inspire people that I don’t even know.

Toni: Perfect strangers.  How did all of this happen?

Jessica: How does it happen?  Well, through teaching and coaching, really, which is what a teacher is, there are lots of opportunities to help people, you know, see what potential they have in themselves and work on certain skills, including things like confidence.  And through the ShiFT the World project, the idea is just to put out stories and actions that people could do daily that really start to make them think about what they could do.

Toni: So really you inspire others by demonstrating these random acts of kindness and then writing about them or showcasing them?

Jessica: Really that is the goal, yeah.  I think the best example or the best inspiration probably is to live by example, and so what Jeannette and I have made it our goal to do this year is every day for 365 days do something, and that really is supposed to be not only inspirational to us but to others.  Doing something.  It can be … and you know, I found a lot of things that sometimes are just the acts, but a lot of things that are sometimes a lot more than the act.

Toni: Jessica, how does that inspiration on ShiFT the World and these random acts of kindness, how does that then go to the other people on the who list that you inspire of children, your children, and the students?

Jessica: We do have the blog, so anyone can log on and read about what’s happening.  I just really try and live a life that … to be the best that I can be.

Toni: And that’s setting an example for not only your children but your students as well, I would imagine.

Jessica: Right, I would hope so, yes.

Toni: So how do you think by being this way and living this life the way that you are and starting this ShiFT the World project, how do you think it might help others to explore their own potential?

Jessica: How do I think it would help others to explore?  You know, sometimes people, including myself, get caught up in the day to day, all of the things that we need to check off our to-do lists.  And oftentimes we don’t take enough time for self reflection or for thinking really of others.  And I’m not talking about making sure the kids get where they need to go and all the things that you normally naturally do, but challenging yourself to think of the impact that you could have on other people’s lives and choosing to go outside your box.

Toni: Okay, so, it would really be almost thinking of things that I might never have done before that might help somebody and actually not even thinking about it anymore, but just doing it.

Jessica: Right.  And really that’s part of the 365-day journey is that my goal is I become a better person because I unconsciously or subconsciously just automatically put others first.

Toni: So there it is, it’s putting other people first.

Jessica: Yeah.

Toni: That’s what it is, all the way around, it’s putting other people first so that they will put other people first.

Jessica: Correct.

Toni: Got it.

Jessica: And the most beautiful part of that, the bonus that you get in return, is a really happy feeling, so I guess it ends up being self-serving in the end.

Toni: And that’s okay, isn’t it?

Jessica: Oh, yeah.

Toni: So what inspires you?

Jessica: What inspires me?  Well, my favorite … seriously, this is kind of weird, but my favorite activity to do is brainstorming, so what inspires me are things like getting outside or walking around when I’m thinking or just deliberately finding people that also enjoy brainstorming and talking about deeper ideas.

Toni: Okay, okay.  But you know I have to tell you, and those who will be listening to this interview opposed to reading it are going to agree with me when I say you sound inspired.

Jessica: Well thank you.

Toni: It comes across as very … that you are very inspired and passionate about what you do.  What else do you find yourself looking for as far as inspiration?

Jessica: Ah, I love to find books that would inspire.  I love things of beauty, so trying to do my own artwork or looking at other people’s artwork or, you know, just getting outside are things that are rather inspiring.

Toni: You listed during the introduction a litany of things that you are involved in.  How did you come to this ShiFT the World project and almost included into this, this already … it seems like massive amounts of responsibilities that you already have?

Jessica: Wow, how did I come to this place?  You know, it is kind of boring for me to do just one thing forever, and I have a fantastic job that I love to do, but some of the things that I do there I do the same things over and over.  So I’m constantly seeking something extra that will be more fulfilling, and shifting is something that is so easy to incorporate into daily life that it really doesn’t take that much effort — it just takes more of a thought process.  I thought to myself, if I could do this and feel better about myself every day and make a difference for other people, it would be so worth that little time it takes to think about it.

My theory on life is if you fake it, it becomes true.  So for example, I am honestly quite frankly born a shy person, and when I was 16 I started a job at JCPenney as a sales clerk.  And it was my job to be outgoing and to seek customers and ask them if they could have needed help and greet them, and it was so fun to pretend that I was outgoing, that pretty soon outgoing became kind of natural.

Toni: So you were forced out of your comfort zone.

Jessica: Absolutely.  Shocked out of it.

Toni: Is that something now that has occurred to you most of your life?

Jessica: Yes.  Absolutely.

Toni: So do you find yourself now stepping out of your comfort zone more and more?

Jessica: Absolutely.  I have a friend whose favorite quote he made up is that “You need to be comfortable being uncomfortable,” and so that’s something that I try to practice each day.

Toni: And when you’re inspired by beauty, by … I would imagine you’re also very inspired by the random acts of kindness yourself.

Jessica: Absolutely.

Toni: And when you’re finding a day that maybe you wake up and you say “Gosh, you know, I’m looking for a little inspiration today,” are there tools or resources that you tend to reach for on a consistent basis?

Jessica: I have a book called Simple Abundance that I read daily and kind of gives me perspective on life and how to look for things that really enrich life that don’t cost anything or don’t put you too much out of your… out of the way.  That’s a book that I read for inspiration.  I can’t think of other tools other than just trying to shift my own attitude.

Toni: And then is that very easy for you to do on your own, or do you seek help to do that at certain times?

Jessica: Both.  I think it is something that naturally I can talk myself into.  I have friends.  I have purposely made friends that can do that for me.  And one of the beautiful things about shift is that’s exactly one of the discoveries that you make, is when you do something for someone else and you see the joy on their face, that automatically translates to happiness for you.

Toni: And then what do you do to continue to explore your own potential so you can continue to have these types of experiences and share them with everybody?

Jessica: What do I do to explore my potential?  I just honestly … I try to stretch myself, and that sometimes translates into not a lot of time with these different projects, but  once upon a time I thought the right answer in interviews to the question “What is your weakness?” I thought the right answer was “I’m a perfectionist,” you know, because you can spin that really great and show people what a thorough job you would do for them.  And until recently … or recently I discovered that really I don’t think that perfectionism is that great of a trait, because it means you haven’t stretched yourself as far as you can go.  Because when you hit that limit of all the things you can do, you realize you can’t do everything perfectly and you’re much smarter to choose which ones you would like to.

Toni: But do you have to test those first?

Jessica: For me I did.

Toni: Okay.  Okay.

Jessica: Perhaps the answer is different for everyone.

Toni: But this has been a process for you?

Jessica: It has, yeah, yeah.

Toni: It’s interesting because listening to who you inspire with your children and students and these strangers that are just going to be experiencing this shift as well, and what you hope that that does for others to, you know, pay it forward to creating shifts around them, it’s interesting that I guess exploring your own potential and stretching, how does that correlate for you to experiencing shifts?

Jessica: Well, honestly, I have picked a partner in ShiFT the World, which is Jeannette Grace, who has different strengths than I have, and Jeanette is … I don’t know if you’ve read Strength Finders, but one of Jeannette’s most fabulous traits that I love about her is she can talk to anyone, and she can win them over.  I mean, she is just personable and someone you want to be around.  And me coming from a shyer background, I watch that and I go “Wow,” and I watch her do some of her shifts that really would be way outside my comfort zone, because most of Jeannette’s shifts she really does approach strangers.  And I think that’s one of the things that I want to work on next, becoming someone who can really approach the unknown.

Toni: And so that’s your stretching.

Jessica: That’s where I’m going to stretch next.

Toni: So really what I’m hearing from you is that your shift will come in watching your partner create shifts, and that’s what you want to do as far as exploring your own potential?

Jessica: That’s true.

Toni: That’s fantastic.  That’s really cool.  Well, Jessica, what you guys are doing is amazing with this project, and we’re going to keep tabs on it, and we will also put a link at the bottom of your interview on how people can see the progress.  You do post a blog, correct?

Jessica: Daily, yes.

Toni: Daily.  Okay.  We will put a post so that people can follow you and see how you’re doing in that 365 days, and we can’t thank you enough for being part of the Get Inspired! Project.

Jessica: Well thank you so much.

Toni: You’re quite welcome.  Take care of yourself.

Jessica: You too.

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For more information about Jessica Town-Gunderson:  shifttheworldwithjessandgrace.wordpress.com

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Toni Reece: Thank you so much, Tilly, for agreeing to become part of this project, and before we begin, can you please introduce yourself?

Tilly Pick: Sure.  My name is Tilly Pick.  I live on Boston with my family.  I’m a marketing professional in the business about 16 years or so.

Toni: In the work that you do and just in everyday life … I’m just going to jump right into the first question … Who do you inspire and how do you do so?

Tilly: You know, I have to be very honest.  I’m not sure that I inspire people that I overtly know how to do it.  What I mean by that is I don’t see a lot of people necessarily going around telling you, “Hey, you’ve really inspired me”, so are you really to know?  I think it’s actually … Inspiration is a little bit more, in my mind anyway, determined through the eyes of the person that gets inspired and maybe they’re people to ask that question or maybe there’s a way to ask that question.

The most simplistic example:  I have used a Liberty Mutual advertising campaign — I’m not sure if you are familiar with it — but in that campaign, someone sees someone do a good deed, and in turn they do a good deed themselves, which triggers yet another person observing that good deed, and so on and so on.  So in many ways, I personally get inspired when I take in things, when I see things, when I observe things, and when I process those.  So I wish I knew exactly how to do it or what people I have had that effect on.

My hope is that I inspire my kids first and foremost probably, about what’s important in life — how to be a good person, how to make a difference in this world — and I say that I try to do that by setting a good example.  And in my mind, work situations aren’t really all that different.  Again, you try to set a good example; at least you aspire to do that.  Sometimes, you probably are better at it than other times.  Sometimes you fall down.  But that’s how I guess I try to do it.

Toni: Tell me, as an example, how you might set an example in the workplace.

Tilly: In terms of the values and the principles that you try to reflect in the work you do; and how you treat your clients; and how you listen to them; and how you solve their business problems and really putting them in front of your own personal needs, for instance.

Toni: So you put your clients first, and so what you do is try to unravel their business problems?

Tilly: Yes, essentially.  In the client service-oriented business, you are there to support your clients and address their problems and their needs.  And typically if you do that well and you’re thoughtful about it and you have integrity in it, your relationship with your clients will continue to grow and develop, as opposed to you looking to sell them yet another product off your shelf.

Toni: So basically it’s that customer relationship that you’re building, being authentic, setting a good example, using your values and principles in order to help your clients.

Tilly: Yes.

Toni: And do you get any type of feedback that that works for you?

Tilly: Sometimes you do, sometimes you don’t.  A lot of people don’t take the time to provide feedback in this day and age, unfortunately, because they’re either afraid of repercussions or being misunderstood.  Feedback mechanisms, in my opinion, are not where they need to be.  I myself try to give feedback whenever it happens.

An agency that I used to work with referred to it as “on-the-level feedback”, which is basically just open and honest dialogue that goes both ways about how things are going.  And you like to know when you’re on the right track as well as when you’re on the wrong track.  So do I also know?  Sometimes you read the leaves, the tea leaves if you will, but are people very overt about it?  I would say probably not.

Toni: They may not verbally come to you with that feedback, but I would imagine then that your validation comes from repeat business.

Tilly: Sure.

Toni: So, it may not come to you verbally but it definitely comes back in repeat business.  When you are working with your clients and then also when you’re making a difference, teaching your children to make a difference in the world, do you use any other similar approach?

Tilly: I think with our kids, the role modeling is a little bit more simplistic in terms of how you treat others, how you treat the environment, how you treat animals and people in relationships.  In the work environment, it gets to be a little bit more economically driven.

Toni: But you’re also doing your own role modeling with your clients.

Tilly: Yes.

Toni: Okay.  From what I’m hearing from you, with how you inspire others and help them also explore their potential is not only …  In the very beginning of this interview, you weren’t sure how that happens, but it became very clear to me that it does with your children, with teaching them how to make a difference with the role modeling and then using a similar approach with the economic return to your clients by being authentic, using those values, the principles, and helping them by setting a good example yourself.  So it seems to me like it’s happening all over the place.

Tilly: Yeah, maybe.

Toni: So let me ask you this – when you’re seeking inspiration, where do you go?  What do you need?

Tilly: I don’t know if there is necessarily a place to go.  I know that I get my energy from …  I used to be an ENTJ, now I’m an INTJ, so this was a difference of 15 years where I used to get my energy from the outside and from being around others all the time.  I like to be a little bit more reflective nowadays, and that may be just part of maturation or whatever.

I guess if you were ask to me what I need to be inspired, a couple things come to mind.  One is this balance, this fine line between the freedom to invent things, kind of finding my own way and entrepreneurial spirit and passion and so forth, so having kind of  … Carte blanche is the wrong word, maybe it’s too far, but then on the other hand being also expected to deliver the goods.  Somebody who is holding the bar up to me and saying hey, you need to do X, Y, and Z, and the tension between those two is, I think, something that I need too.

I would also say that the work that I do, I need to feel that it’s making a difference someplace.  It’s not about philanthropy,  it’s about being meaningful and thoughtful and contributing to something that will add value somewhere along the way.  And then, I would say that the last thing that I need just on a purely personal level is, given the business that I’m in, periodic compassion and understanding.

Toni: Compassion and understanding?

Tilly: Periodic compassion and understanding.  The occasional … I think in our business — maybe it’s in other categories too — the occasional “atta boy” goes a long way, and I know it’s important to me.  A lot of times you don’t get it or you have to seek it, but those are probably the things that I need to get inspired, if you will.

Toni: When you’re looking for that — with that periodic compassion and understanding — are there certain resources that you reach for or tools that you might use?  Even in the freedom to invent, you know, are there things that you find yourself reaching for when you’re in that place going, “You know what?  I need to stay inspired or to be inspired at the moment.”

Tilly: You just ask people.  You have to be overt about it.  You can’t expect people around you to come your way, in terms of if you want to know how people feel about something.  If that’s part of your DNA, you need to go out and ask for it.

Toni: So you basically will say “Hey, how am I doing?”

Tilly: Sometimes you have to.  Sometimes you can get a sense of it just by different cues in the environment or progress on a project or how people feel or even their body language.  But sometimes you do have just ask, “Well, what did you think of this?”

Toni: When you’re working on yourself and you’re looking for that periodic compassion and understanding but also working on that inventing process, where do you go to explore your potential in moving forward in those areas, maybe when you’re in the inventing part?

Tilly: Where do I go to explore my potential?

Toni: How do you keep yourself fresh?

Tilly: How do I keep myself fresh?  You know what I’ve learned over time is a sense of self or awareness of myself, my strengths, my weakness.  Strengths oftentimes become your weakness.  That has probably taught me more than anything else.

Toni: Can you explain that a little bit?

Tilly: With respect to me, for instance, I’m very much driven by my values, my principles.  And a lot of that comes back to my family, my parents, how I was raised, and all that kind of stuff, and that is almost my compass, and I what I need from people.  What I need to be inspired in my situation is people that recognize that a little bit, that recognize that compass and know to play to the strength.  Because certainly if everything is about your values and everything, you might lose objectivity in something.  So you have to make sure it stays on the right track, that you’re using it as a strength as opposed to letting it kind of handcuff you or slow you down.  Does that make sense?

Toni: It does, but that also then, I would imagine, is why the feedback is so important to you, because you are so driven by your values.  That is why that feedback, periodic feedback — whether it’s compassion, understanding, or maybe negative feedback — is important to you to make sure that that compass doesn’t need to be, I don’t know, maybe regulated a bit.

Tilly: Yeah.  For me, the marketing business is very much about passion and energy and pushing yourself and looking for better solutions and new ways of thinking of old problems and all that kind of stuff.  For me to be able to push myself in that space, one thing I’ve learned is that I need to be in a place and with people that recognized that piece about me and that helped me play to that strength.  That’s when I’m at my best.  That’s when I probably feel most inspired.

Toni: Is when those strengths are recognized.

Tilly: Yeah.

Toni: And you can build on that.

Tilly: Yes.

Toni: That’s really interesting.  And I think the lesson in this interview for me from you is the honesty that you put forward saying that you’re not sure that there is inspiration from you to others because you don’t get that feedback.  However, in your work you do work authentically, your values are incredibly important to you, and you need that feedback.  And also personally then, you’ve spoken to needing that feedback, needing to make a difference, and how those values are so important.  So, to me, this interview is all about your honesty and how important those values are to you, putting them out there, but how absolutely critical to you the feedback to those values and playing to those strengths are.

Tilly: I would say that’s accurate.  And I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I think feedback — and feedback may be the wrong term — but open communication that goes two ways is very important whether it’s supervisor and an employee or whatever.  But when you know what people are thinking, what people are feeling, I think when you’re aware of that and when you’re aware of that in the middle of that, it makes a huge difference in the level of inspiration, motivation, and energy you have towards something.

Toni: Well, you have provided a great insight today, and I think others are going to definitely benefit and learn from it, and for that I truly appreciate your time and giving of this 15-minute snapshot.  So I thank you so very much, Tilly, for your time today.

Tilly: You’re very welcome.

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For more information about Tilly Pick, Partner at 360 Development Practice 360, LLC  :  www.linkedin.com/in/tillypick

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Toni Reece: Okay, Sally, we are officially being recorded for the Get Inspired! Project.  Thank you so much for agreeing to the interview.  Before we begin with the questions, can you please introduce yourself?

Sally Petersen: Absolutely.  Sally Petersen, I am the President of MAD Consulting (MAD stands for “Make A Difference”) and I consult business leaders with Fortune 100 companies.

Toni: Great!  Well my first question for you, Sally, is who do you inspire and then how do you do that?

Sally: Sure.  I would say I inspire those that I work with in the business community, leaders, coworkers, colleagues, business colleagues, people in various organizations I support and work with.  In addition, I would say I also try to inspire my family, friends, and my children.

Toni: Okay, and when you do this, when you work with your clients in the businesses and so forth and also in your daily life with your children and your relationships, how do you go about inspiring others?

Sally: It’s funny, Toni.  I don’t think there is any magical formula of how you inspire someone.  I think it is typically a mixture of different actions.  Probably one of the most important, I would say, is having an unwavering sense of optimism, of positivity, that others can look for when maybe things might not be going their way, but they know they could count on you for direction, for hope, or even just for a listening ear.

Toni: Oh, great!  When you are working with others and you are inspiring or listening and you are being as positive as you can be, is there a certain technique or approach that you do to help others explore their potential?

Sally: I would say there are a few things I do.  One is, I really try to discover an individual’s strength.  What do they bring to the table, what are they good at, and sometimes it’s a surprise to them when you uncover what those are.  I use a tool called Strength Finder.  It is by Tom Rath, and it’s actually a book you could buy on Amazon, at Barnes & Noble, at Borders.  You could purchase the book and within the book there is an online assessment tool; and while taking this online assessment tool, there are 36 trades you could be categorized of where your strength lies based on how you completed the assessment questions.  And what I love about that is oftentimes, my clients, my colleagues, after they take that test, as I said, sometimes they are surprised what their true strengths are.  And what I do to help them advance their strengths and create that inspiration within them is look at how they could apply those strengths to what they do every day.  Whether it is something in the business world or something personally they are challenged with at home.

Toni: Oh, I see.  So you match whatever the assessment results are as far as their own strengths into exploring their potential, which could also be very inspiring for them.

Sally: Absolutely; and the tool hasn’t failed me yet.  I have done it with my children.  There is actually a child’s version for kids, for those moms and parents out there trying to inspire their children.  The book is called, “How Full Is Your Bucket,” and it’s kind of looking, you know, not only your strengths and what you bring to the table, but it’s helping a child realize their actions impact others each and every day.

Toni: Oh, okay … so therefore, there is a connection there of the choices and consequences.

Sally: There you go; exactly.

Toni: I see.  When you are looking for inspiration, Sally, and you need to fill your own bucket, where do you seek it?  What do you need for your own inspiration?

Sally: For my own inspiration, Toni, I would say I need three things.  One is to be surrounded by like-minded people, those that believe we could genuinely make a difference, those with authentic souls; meaning they know their mission, they know their purpose, they know what they are here to do and go about doing it each and every day with a lot of passion and a lot of rigor.  That would be one.

Another one, I would say, is if I’m looking for inspiration is anything that drives creativity.  I think creativity is a spawn of inspiration, and when you are in a creative environment — whether it be a location or a mindset — I think that really helps to inspire thoughts, ideas, passion.  Lastly, I would say graciousness; being grateful, counting your blessings, and having an appreciation for what you have.  I think that brings tremendous inspiration if you point it in the right direction when you sometimes may have fallen off the path.

Toni: Can I just clarify, did you say gratefulness or graciousness?

Sally: Graciousness.

Toni: Graciousness.  So what is the difference, from your perspective, of graciousness and gratefulness?

Sally: I would say gratefulness … very similar; first, by my own personal definition, being grateful is being grateful for what you have.  Being gracious is sharing that disposition with others, that grateful disposition with others.

Toni: Okay.

Sally: There is a quote I carry in my day planner that I often read — if not once or twice a day — and I will share it with you real quick if I could.

Toni: Sure!

Sally: It is a quote by Melody Beattie, and the quote is this:  “Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life.  It turns what we have into enough and more.  It turns denial into acceptance, chaos to order, confusion to clarify.  It can turn a meal into a feast, a house into a home, a stranger into a friend.  Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, and creates vision for tomorrow.”  And so I think that mindset of being grateful or being gracious has a tremendous impact and correlation to inspiration.

Toni: Oh, that’s fantastic, I really enjoyed that … and the graciousness part is sharing the gratefulness.  What a succinct way to describe that; that is what being gracious is, is sharing your gratefulness, so I thank you for that.  When you are looking for like-minded people and authentic souls and staying in that state of grace to share how grateful that you are, are there techniques or resources that you look for that help you to do that?

Sally: Sure.  There are a few resources that I use.  I am becoming very active right now in social media.  I am using Twitter, Facebook, Linked In, various online mediums to find those like-minded people.  Through those avenues, I get a lot of creativity, a lot of new ideas on how I can expand my business and how I could make a more positive impact with my family; and I think, you know, those tools that are so readily available to us, sometimes we overlook.  We have to dig down deep and, you know, find where those alliances are and see how you could apply them to, not only get inspiration, but really make a difference in what you are trying to accomplish every day.

Toni: And when you are looking to explore your own potential, what do you do?  How do you explore your own potential?

Sally: When I am trying to push myself in terms of inspiration and exploring my own potential, I will relentlessly try new ideas with a passion and an unwavering commitment like no other.  I truly believe I am from the mindset that every million times you fail, that next time you succeed will be the best success you would have stumbled upon, and you don’t know you’re going to get there until you try, try, and try again.  So, I think just trying new ideas, learning from your failures, not getting down, remaining optimistic, and trying again, I think not only helps me, myself, in terms of my own inspiration, but it helps inspires others as well.

Toni: So how would you correlate that back to how you inspire others and help them explore their potential?  The social media and the tools, the alliances that you are forming, the new ideas that you try out, the passion that you sustain, learning from your failures, how does that — and does it — correlate back to the inspiration and exploration that you provide to family, friends, or colleagues?

Sally: I would say, I think a correlation … I think how that expands is role modeling.  I think everyone is a role model.  Children are role models.  Business leaders are role models.  We all, you know, give that role model title to typically star celebrities, famous athletes, the President who is a great role model; but the reality is we are all role models.  We are all looking at each other for how we handle situations and how do we take defeat, how do we rise above challenges; and I think through my mindset of being gracious and positive and carrying enthusiasm and passion, I think that allows me to almost, I want to say subconsciously, be a role model to others.

Toni: Well Sally, I thank you so very much for providing this snapshot of what your approach is in inspiration and exploration of others and their potential as well as your own needs of inspiration and how you explore your own potential; — and how that just comes full circle — and sharing that information with others who can learn and also benefit from your approaches and needs.  I am so grateful that you have shared this and wanted to take part in this Get Inspired! Project; so I thank you for your time on this interview.

Sally: And thank you so much, Toni.  I think the work you’re doing is absolutely fantastic.

Toni: Thank you and I hope that we talk again soon.

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For more information about Sally Petersen: www.madconsulting.org

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